Comments on: How To Cook An Omelette (and not be a drama queen about it)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:36:33 +0000

Sentimental and nostalgic. Great. Zachotnah.

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zengun » Blog Archive » Love, your dearest spammee — Tue, 01 Mar 2005 10:06:56 +0000

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After Gutenberg » Blog Archive » If It Is Broke, Do Not Fix It — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:30:36 +0000

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By: Eric

Eric — Wed, 09 Feb 2005 04:32:01 +0000

we use mt-2.661 and we’ll be coverting to wp, we’re using 1.5gamma.

we’re now seeing a new ping-spam, a small set of distributed writers are injecting via mt-tb.cgi links that we only see in the menu i/f, and in the filesystem as archive/art.xml.

By: padawan

padawan — Tue, 08 Feb 2005 16:52:16 +0000

What I was trying to say was what Phil said, basically the notification has the post title somewhere but it’s quite melted with the TB content and you have no way to find the TBed post other than copying the title, going to MT, use the extended search with the post title to find it. That’s about ten clicks or so. They could have provided a simple link to the post like with comments. Also, in the main MT interface, you see TBs, but again without any way to directly access the post they are linking!

Laurent is right, TB management in MT is, sorry to say, crappy, and participates to the feeling that 6A doesn’t really care about the protocol they created. Add to that the TB spamitis and you can easily foresee a doomed future for TBs.

By: michel v

michel v — Sun, 06 Feb 2005 23:22:43 +0000

It is far from being 100% guaranteed to stop trackback spam, but on this weblog and others it has been very efficient at making spam much less of a nuisance.
To express “ever again” more pragmatically, here’s a random thought: I can plan a vacation without having to close TrackBacks while I’m gone, confident that at worst what I’ll see when I’m back would be either some false positives, or some insults/flames (well those can’t really be filtered anyway, can they?); not texas holdem billboards.

By: Shelley

Shelley — Sun, 06 Feb 2005 22:30:08 +0000

So using spam karma is a guarantee not to have trackback or comment spam? I didn’t know that it was 100% guaranteed. Wow.

By: Laurent

Laurent — Sun, 06 Feb 2005 20:11:19 +0000

La gestion des trackbacks est très foireuse sur MT. On ne peut pas les éditer (mais quand même les supprimer !) et j’ajoute que dans la page de gestion des trackbacks (mt.cgi?__mode=list_pings&blog_id=#), il manque la référence aux billets impliqués !
Pour mon sentiment, les trackbacks devraient être gérés dans le même “flux” que les commentaires.
C’est quand même un peu dommage pour les créateurs des trackbacks d’avoir porté si peu d’attention à leur gestion.

By: Phil Ringnalda

Phil Ringnalda — Sun, 06 Feb 2005 17:19:48 +0000

Oh, you’re not far off (at least as of 3.01, I’m a touch behind on updates): the notification tells you with the post title in the subject, but no link to the entry (in 18 months, will you remember what “How To Cook An Omelette” is about?). If instead of looking at pings from the notification email, you look at them from the listing in the interface, it doesn’t tell you at all.

And we can delete them, or edit them in phpMyAdmin, but not choose to moderate them, so if we wish to keep TrackBack what it is, saying “you should read this, too,” rather than what it is not and Pingback is, saying “I linked to this,” then our only option is to allow the ping that someone shyly and hopefully sent to be published, let them see it published, and then delete it.

The only way we are given to make the omlette I want to make, one where every ping is a comment that lives on someone else’s server, where anyone interested in an entry should follow the link in every ping, is to make it by smashing the eggs in people’s faces.